In this podcast, Dr Graham Howarth, Medicolegal Advisor, and Dr Brenda Kubheka, Managing Director of Health IQ consulting, discuss various elements of patient safety and leadership, especially during a global pandemic. They discuss how clinicians disruptive behaviour has a corrosive effect on teamwork, and how this negatively impacts on patient safety. Brenda also discusses her thoughts around ethics, social justice, South Africa’s response to the pandemic and changes in the healthcare sector during COVID-19.