“I teach people how to put themselves aside and listen and respond with generosity,” says therapist Terry Real. “Our culture doesn’t teach us how to do these things. We have to learn them.” In this open conversation with GP, Real explains why individualism and patriarchy has damaged our ability to be in healthy and loving relationships. They talk about why it’s important for couples to take each other on, and Real shares his honest advice for how we can shift ourselves, our partners, and our collective culture toward more openness and compassion. Real’s new book,Us: Getting Past You & Me to Build a More Loving Relationship, is out today. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices