It's been a while since we featured some creative professionals on this podcast, and Akshay is thrilled to be speaking to a real rock band. Join him as he discusses the creative process with Alberto Martinez (guitar/ vocals) and Asheesh Khokha (drums) from St. Francis and The Wolf (https://www.sfandthewolfmusic.com/). Akshay is joined in the second half of the episode by Roy Atkinson (Twitter @royatkinson) and Karen Brusch (@Karen_Brusch) to debate how similar creative approaches can be found in IT/SM. This episode also features a shout-out to Andrea Kis (Twitter @AndieKis). Andrea is a Principal Consultant at Devoteam, advising clients and delivering innovative solutions to address ITSM, ESM and SIAM challenges.