Our first August rebroadcast was John and Pu's 2019 interview with SF superstarCixin Liu(you may want to re-listen to that episodebefore this one!). Here, they reflect on the most significant things that Liu had said, and to ponder the political situation for contemporary Chinese writers who come to the West to discuss their work. They consider whether our world is like a cabinet in a basement, and what kind of optimism or pessimism might be available to science fiction writers. They compare the interview to a recent profile of Liu inThe New Yorker, and ponder the advantages and disadvantages of pressing writers to weigh in on the hot-button topics of the day. Discussed in this episode: Cixin Liu,The Three Body Problem,The Dark Forest, andDeath’s End Jiayang Fan, “Liu Cixin’s War of the Worlds” (New Yorkerinterview/profile) Yuri Slezkine,The House of Government: A Saga of the Russian Revolution Isaac Asimov,The End of Eternity George Melies (dir.),A Voyage to the Moon Fritz Lang (dir.),Metropolis Frant Gwo (dir.),The Wandering Earth Ivan Goncharov,Oblomov Transcript availablehere. Elizabeth Ferryis Professor of Anthropology at Brandeis University. Email:ferry@brandeis.edu.John Plotzis Barbara Mandel Professor of the Humanities at Brandeis University and co-founder of theBrandeis Educational Justice Initiative. Email:plotz@brandeis.edu. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://newbooksnetwork.supportingcast.fm/science-fiction